Comments on: Broken Silence: Fan interaction https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/ Horror Gaming Coverage You Can Rely On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:27:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: roque https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8154 Sat, 27 Aug 2011 01:53:07 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8154 Pessimism has become endemic to internet fandom. It never affects sales. The most vocal SH4 hater I know admitted to owning TWO copies of the game.

Developers, if they’re smart, mine fan forums for ideas but aren’t wishy-washy about making decisions and sticking to them. I liked a Korn song once. ONCE. Based on that, I’m willing to hold out hope. (That and I thought they were funny as shit on South Park. But then, I am clinically insane.)

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By: Lycaon https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8148 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:51:01 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8148 I agree with Smiley.

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By: Amy Balot https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8146 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:13:29 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8146 Yeah, I pretty much said the same about BoM on my site, I said I consider it to be in the same category as the mobile games or the arcade. Just something that should be a fun addition, not to be taken too seriously.

As for the other stuff, people are gonna bitch no matter what. It’s just especially appalling when they blatantly disrespect devs who are actually reading it and trying to be helpful.

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By: Elyssa https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8143 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:20:00 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8143 Great article CJ & I agree with what point you were trying to make. Mindless raging & cussing & downright idiocy will get your voice nowhere except taken as childish as is deserved. I however had no idea Korn was doing the opening of the main menu theme for this game or that the HD collection was that pricey, which miffed me just a bit. Other than that, I can’t wait for this game & have high hopes for a great entry to this series.

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By: Smiley https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8141 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:54:22 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8141 I’m keeping optimism about Downpour. I cannot however support the decisions of the HD collection based on what I said earlier. I cannot blindly remain optimistic just because it brands the “Silent Hill” name. All those trailers, pictures, interviews and promos? That’s stuff released to display what you’re investing your interest into. If people are not satisfied then it’s not the fault of gamers.

Even as I type this the latest Kojima Report addresses the aspect ratio issue and allows comments and a reply section to openly voice the fan’s opinions on if they want to support the “super widescreen” or 16:9 ratios. They’re saying that it’s not too late to change the ratio and if the fans want it they will work to have it. I’m amazed at how dedicated they are in that respect.

Now if only we had something like that for the HD collection of Silent Hill. I’m glad to see the influence of Downpour, but I’m seeing a lot of fans really invested in how these classic games will be done in HD. So here’s what I’d like and let me know if you agree or not. I promise you these are not hard to accomplish.

1. New voices are inevitable. I don’t expect Konami to take fault for residuals so if they’re going with a new cast let’s hear some good performances. They’ll never be the original, but that’s why fans still have those copies to begin with.

2. Do not over-do the trophies/achievements to include useless stuff we’re already expected to do. Gamers already lose the tension when you have some kind of pop up displayed reminding you you’re in a game. Most newcomers will be affected by this so keep it as minimal as possible.

3. No removing/changing the music whatsoever. 5.1 sound? Sure, but no changes to the tracks beyond that.

4. The price for this should be no greater than $39.99 or below. Anything above is a complete rip off compared to other HD releases in the market. If you’re going to make this $50 why not include remastered HD versions of SH1 or SH4 to complete this “Collection” of yours? At the very least give gamers a SH1 downloadable code from psn. I already bought it on psn, but the fact that it’s available would ensure new sales as well as make sense for a price raise.

I stand strongly that Konami is doing wrong to the HD collection and it doesn’t bode well with my optimism for the other SH games coming soon. With such insulting treatment to classic games no less how can we expect them to handle the new games any better?

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By: Nekroido https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8140 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:33:42 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8140 I totally agree with everything you said here, CJ. Davin and Tomm showed theirselves as the most dedicated developer for the series so far, and I’d love to play their products. I disliked Tomm for a while and believed that he might spoil Downpour. But now I see that he _knows_ what is Silent Hill. I run a Silent Hill community on a russian social network and there lots of shit is said about the future of the series. These bums think that they’re the only ones who loves Silent Hill and knows it better than a regullar player, that the only one who loves it should hate everything new. And this ultimate fatalism with the nostradamus-like prediction is f★cking everywhere (did you see that ‘lie to me’ish crap video by Twin Perfect?). Oh c’mon, get a life. If you’re so pissed of with ‘what they’re doing to the series’ just ignore it and play only the good them oldies, right? Just stop blaming something before you see how it came out.

BTW, I think the big nice ‘F★CK YOU FANS’ would be if producers had just stopped contacting with the community and releasing something beside teasers: nothing to see, nothing to talk about, nothing to blame or love.

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By: Earthbound_X https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8139 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:42:02 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8139 I’ve noticed lately that gamers seem to be pessimists by nature.

Which makes me think so many gamers now a days are very unhappy people.

Gamers who are optimists like myself, and you CJ, seem to be a small dying group.

I’ll never understand what the hell is so hard about waiting and seeing. So many gamers seem to have a need and want to hate and attack just about anything. I noticed a ton of this when the Wii U was announced, we still have pretty much little to no info on it, but some many gamers are just ready to dismiss it right away.

I think that’s pretty sad.

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By: CJ Melendez https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8137 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:06:20 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8137 Of course not all criticism is trolling. That’s what I said. Negative opinions or a disagreement (like you have) worded in a civil way is what should be done. Being blunt is fine. You’re being blunt, but in a good way. It’s not raging rants. That is how it should be done, and that is how I agree it should be said.

I still think they can rectify any disagreement fans have with the HD Collection. Optional classic voice overs put in now, or via a free update. But perhaps that’s too much to wish for.

As for the $50 price point for two games? I agree. The PS3 version should at least have a voucher for SH1. I’m also hoping for a ton of extras. High def making ofs, art, videos. At $10 more than most HD Collections, and along side the MGSHD Collection, this one needs some extras.

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By: Smiley https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8136 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:56:04 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8136 CJ not all the harsh criticism is mindless trolling. I gave clear reasons why I’m not satisfied with how the HD collection is being handled without resulting to childish flaming. Some voice that concern on the internet the only way they think it’ll get through….being blunt.

You can wait and buy the product once it’s already out, but the problem is once you do that you throw your criticism out the window for Konami. You already gave them your money and played the game so their work is finished.

And we’re at this day and age where even the biggest gaming sites can’t really speak out on a thorough review of the product because they miss out on interview opportunities and lots of goodies. Consider how the reviews for MGS4 were handled. Critics taken and given the spa treatment. Allowed to play the game under contract that those that wish to do so have to intentionally leave out specific features of the game that might otherwise sway consumer opinion such as MGS4 installing after every chapter.

These days the only way to get through to a company is with your wallet. I think Konami learned the hard way when Homecoming’s lack of support didn’t even allow for them to market the game in Japan.

I can’t change Konami’s mind about the HD collection since it’s already coming along in the development. But I hope the responses will be enough so that Konami learns next time how to go about re-releasing a game on future consoles. MGS has it right for the most part despite the aspect ratio on their cutscenes.

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By: Smiley https://www.relyonhorror.com/articles/broken-silence-fan-interaction/#comment-8134 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:39:27 +0000 http://www.relyonhorror.com/?p=13455#comment-8134 Writing what’s on your mind is never wasted time. Reading someone’s thoughts for half an hour might be though if you didn’t gain anything from it. If that’s the case then feel free to voice your concern over to Idontgiveacrap@whocares.net

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